All right guys welcome back to the rickshaw's Golf Show podcast episode 190 closing in on that 200 Mark yes if we're going to do something live we've got to start playing it pretty soon no would you we got if we're gonna you've committed to this you should definitely definitely definitely are. And you still get a little trophy as well for 200 episodes I'm looking forward to that little mini Claret jug so we'll do our best more information on potentially a live show coming soon this episode yes I think if people saw the title might go oh this might be a very interesting one we had a guest on yes last week we were down at Woburn in Watford kind of North London. And it's the home of Ian Poulter correct previous PGA Tour player DP World Tour player current live player yes captain of the Majestics he is our first live player that we've had as a guest on the show correct um this is a really really interesting interview I found it fascinating now just to give everybody a bit of an Insight we dive into a lot yes it starts fairly kind of smoothly. And we you know Ian is someone. For me growing up playing golf he was a huge inspiration from someone like myself because his backstory of becoming a PJ professional. Or becoming a tour pro was the fact he used to be an assistant Pro like me like lots of other assistant Pros he did his PGA qualification like me at The Belfry. And so I always kind of you know I was talking to someone who's like wow he's taking it from probably admitted himself a fairly average player growing up he's become a multiple tour winner well that's very interesting a lot of people. Or well a lot of people do know many might not that Ian Poulter famously turned Pro off of four handicap which is not uncommon if you wanted to go into the world of coaching. Or you want to become a club pro or whatever it might be YouTuber yes. But to be to turn profile for handicap and go on to even get on tour never mind get on tour retain a tour card never mind retain a tour card win European tour events PGA Tour events is absolutely unheard of however. in this podcast we do ask him about that. And there's a bit more to the story yeah why he turned proof more than people they think we also talked about his his new life on top on live tour. And what that means to him the positives and acquisdom grilled him on the negatives as well well that's something again many listeners viewers of the podcast certainly if you're a clubhouse member or you've listened to a lot of the podcasts we'll know we've had very um open opinions on live gulp some of its pros lots of its cons Etc we've both kind of openly admitted we're not massive fans of it um we spoke about it he gave reasons why he joined and why he likes it much more honest reasons I think that we've ever heard from from him it's the most honest I've heard him say why you draw. And live and I'm sure a lot of you people listening will guess why he joined. But it was nice to hear it from his own mouth um. But yeah he was really honest he was really um great with his time we also had the privilege of going out. And playing an 18-hole match with him a 10 shot challenge where I start 10 on the pie he starts level that will also be coming out soon not this week maybe next.
Week we also dived into Ryder Cup we did. And his legacy I mean he is from the Europe standpoint a radical Legend yeah I think that's why you know you wouldn't be too far off I think if you said in the UK that Ian Poulter is up there with a household as a household name certainly just among General sports fans I found it very hard to believe you'd find if you've got 10 Lads you like going watching football out of those 10 Lads you might not even play golf at all seven eight with Norway. And polter is because lots of people have interest in the Ryder Cup. And he's been such a figure of that um but what was also quite interesting actually about this before we get into the podcast which as we said is a banger on the way down to um Woburn I took Alex who worked with us. And he said to me all who who's tall Pro that you've met that surprised you that was different to what you thought they were going to be like in a positive. Or A negative way and I kind of scratched my head a little bit and thought you know what most tour Pros have kind of been what I expected Adam Scott stands out as a guy who was even nice. And you could have ever dreamed of wasn't he he was just he was ridiculous the perfect man. And Lee Westwood just kind of how I thought it'd be lovely guy quite dry likes his banter kind of what you'd expect we'd briefly right I had my importer once before very briefly with you ironic that well burn for a few minutes Johnny came across tonight I don't know if you've met him much before or I think I've met him once. Or twice um one of the times I met him he was actually playing with our friend James Robinson in uh the old practice round yes. And I remember just chatting to him very briefly then.
But but not a great deal of dialogue with him it's been a few interactions on social media but not not much and before you come to your point I know what you're going to come on to in a minute Agronomy is super super super super clear this was all done through me just dming Koreans like this was not a staged. Or there was no what's the right word there was no um affiliation to any tour to make this actual event happen we were down at Woburn. And they have the attackless performance center there they're bringing out some new irons I was going. For an iron fitting I thought you know what I know Ian's in the UK at the moment and let's just dm'd him saying hey and are you around he said yeah I said do you fancy filming he said let's do it I missed out a bit there though I then.
Sent some nice email to get it over the line well obviously. But I'm joking it started completely you slid into his DMS yeah it wasn't it wasn't anything to do with any tours it was just an opportunity I thought let's give it a go. But going back to your point about. So yeah. So what these Pros are like. So what I went down I'll be totally honest now and I'm sure Ian's team have listened to this I went down thinking that um Ian would be a nice guy I thought he would want to be there because obviously he'd agreed to it like you said just off his own back. But I kind of wondered like will there be I just don't get with these guys will there be a bit of a look at the watch every now. And again how long is this going to be. Or whatever it might wasn't fully sure what to expect this is a successful guy who's been on tour. For 20 odd years you know I couldn't quite I didn't have a real expectation of what I was going to get honest to God now I will go down forever now saying he was one of the nicest topos I've met he's such a family guy he had his two sons of Him Luke. And Josh who let's be honest with credit to him really nice but nice Lads very well behaved uh so well behaved owls Luke's like 18 19. yeah Luke is going to be a baller yeah he is really tall. And looks like he's grinding like crazy Josh is his youngest son who's probably about. And he's 11. he he he's like an excitable that's exactly what I'm gonna say he is like an excitable puppy bless him he was desperate to be on shoot he was desperate he sat in on the podcast he actually features a little bit on the podcast um we also have a surprise appearance from the chef at Woburn on this podcast after your wrist slapped slandering their sausage rolls last time yeah they wanted to make an amends. And I'm glad so that comes up on this podcast as well but yeah Ian was he was he was really really nice yeah no yeah 100 agree um I think the podcast you'll enjoy is a lot to listen to a lot of little nuggets in there to take away. And the match honestly and this isn't just trying to pick it up too much your match against Ian Poulter he starts level power you start 10 under par round world burn around the jute core his home course his home course was in fact I'm gonna say now I think it was the best match you've had wow I'm gonna say that right now on camera. So stay tuned for that before that gets released next.
Week sit back and if you're not the biggest team holds the fan in the world give this podcast a listen to I'm not saying it'll change your mind but it definitely a different side of him that I'd never seen before and I think a lot of people listen. And watching are gonna really really enjoy. And if you are the biggest Ian portal fan in the world you're equally gonna love it love it if you're somewhere in between you're gonna love it. So I think everyone's gonna love this podcast everyone in the world is going to love this podcast if you do love this podcast please do feel free to like the YouTube video share it with some friends. But also on Apple or Spotify rate the podcast and again share with a few friends who might only occasionally dip into podcasts push it towards them force them to listen to it let's spread the word right sit back enjoy this very candid podcast with Ian Poulter so Ian thank you for joining us absolute pleasure to be honest I feel like we're joining you because we're down here at your home golf course today.
Here in the UK in the Poulter room in the actual Ian Poulter room this is cool in it very nice yes like it's a great room got some memorabilia on the walls I think we need to add a few more to be honest. So Angus needs to uh give woven some additions to that I only need some Majestic shirts and some bits and pieces in there it is though. And to be honest it's quite handy because just to the left here we've got your career highlights too oh did we forget anything yeah there's some little small glass black there's quite a lot on there it definitely is you know you know what I want to dive into loads of things today.
But one of the really interesting topics obviously we live in the world of social media you're one of the first to the party of golf pros into social media actually a lot today.
It was at 2009 April 2009 you joined Twitter where did that come about I I I don't I don't rightly know exactly where I was. But I think there was a there was somebody else on tour that I saw had a social media page. And was putting some reasonable content out now I take tons of pictures have been fairly vocal through my time. So I thought this would be like a really cool Avenue to to kind of give people an insight into what we do day in day out because you know as as what is the world of of today.
Is different to what it was 14 years ago. And um more content more cameras more pictures like people eat videos media content that's why you guys are here exactly because it's it's what everyone wants yeah. So I kind of felt that that was a good opportunity um especially you know playing some great golf around that time as well kind of 2009 10 11 12 to be able to push some cool content to people did it also feel like it gave you a platform to actually vocalize what you're thinking. And actually you know be able to tell the truth where there was any media that you felt like you needed to rectify did it did it give you a platform you can go right you know what if you want to know the true information this is what I think yeah funny I mean funny you say that. But there was a time there was a quote in a magazine which really um. And it popped up from time to time you you probably know exactly what one it was. But um you know I was taking a little out of context in what I was actually saying. And what I actually said. And obviously like all good media outlets right there's um there's always there's always a way to shorten something or or take a piece of that um and you know social media gives you that opportunity to to actually correct it it's never normally going to get corrected in the media. So you might as well be able to push it out yourself so that was a decent opportunity. And a and a place where I feel you know you could write a few wrongs in in those certain terms and hopefully get your your honest opinion across see I think that's something though it that I as a golf fan like to see that we see these great golfers like yourself you know one tall win an event playing the PGA tour. But to see golfers who actually actively use social media it does help to to grow a deeper fan base because you feel like you get to know that person more. And hearing their opinions and their take on things and their humor Etc I think it definitely helps to build a real fan base. And I saw at the open this year actually uh well last year now we're at the old course the amount of people on the practice days that were chasing yourself. For pictures and stuff it was noticeable that you've obviously really built a hardcore follower. And you think social media has helped with that as such yeah I you know I've I think I've done a decent job in in the following that we've had um you know to build a core audience I would say people that I can relate to people that follow me. For not just my golf but other other general family interests what we're obviously into off the golf course you know stuff that I like to push push out to people and you know too many pages in my opinion um are just done by other people yeah now I can't do every single post now Angus who who helps to do our social media um does all the video editing. And all the cool stuff that I simply can't do um. And obviously that could get you know pushed out at times you know on our page but you know 90 of the stuff that I do whether it's pre-warming up. Or practicing that I push out I'm pushing it out myself so there are too many people in my opinion that don't give the real look from themselves they don't even look at social media yeah which which you know I I don't get that side of it. But but for me to have an audience that I relate to um I don't respond to every message because it's just simply impossible there's just hundreds exactly some people get offended when you don't respond but there's just nothing you can do. But you know um I also think people appreciate when you do get opportunity to respond yeah. So you know if you responded to everybody it doesn't maybe want it's impossible to do. And also it wouldn't feel quite as special where when you do get an opportunity to say thank you to someone. Or like a tweet it carries a lot of weight and you can tell your social media is done by you you know certainly your Instagram stories it's obvious you holding the phone you talking you know it's all of those nice touches that I think you write more people with social media should try. And do you know it's not I think a lot of players maybe got into social media because of other aspects where you can really see your social media kind of passion really I think a lot though it's just to keep sponsors happy. And it's very corporate and it's not really showing you the inside their life and like you said that I think. And we've seen it will come on to them showing like the Netflix documentary scene behind you know what's really people's lives are like it definitely helps me anyway become more attached to Golfers. And root for them and want them to win because I feel like I know them a bit more currently back in the UK you do you miss home soil is it nice to get back home taste some nice bacon I know you love a bit of English bacon. And HP what do you what do you miss most about listen up I'm on a I'm on somewhat of a fitness kind of oh is that the wrong thing to say to you at the moment I'm trying really hard because I've lost about 20 pound in weight which um needed to go very good way too heavy last August coming back from the UK yeah um spent a little bit of time at Woburn eating you know all sorts of great home foods. And you know it got me definitely um way above my weight of where I wanted to be by steam weight 206 pounds which is um which is heavy. So I've shed all of that decent weight I added some last week in Italy on a family holiday but I'm now back in in shed mode um but you know I I miss home comfort food stuff that I grew up on you know eating curries and Chinese and occasional fish and chips and sausage sandwich and bacon sandwich and all of that stuff I mean it's just there's nothing like it when when you're home. And in and around home it's you know you can't beat them yeah you know pucker pickled onion Monster Month is that you is that you no. But they're in the cupboard so you just gotta have that yeah you just have to have a pack don't you I mean there's a little jar on the side that Katie always keeps full of the you know just just small chocolates. And the dairy milks and fudge and Whispers and all of that you know you walk past and you've got to put your hand in the little cookie Jared chocolate can you get most of the stuff in the U.S actually there is a there is a website. For that all right yeah there is uh it's called englishshop.com I think it is um. And you can get anything oh. And it's delivered within a week and occasionally I'll go home and it's delivery time and this humongous box of cadburys and walk as Chris yeah I mean you name it it's in there I mean you know jars of um jars of pickle. And like it's you know the best it's it's like a little touch of touch of UK Heavens arrived on the doorstep it's amazing and what about the family obviously they've spent most of the time certainly the kids in the U.S do they still love the little English Treats have you managed to get get the get the boys on on the English you've got Josh there not in the background oh look he's like we we have a snack cupboard like we do in America in. But back home here and you know we eat probably half of his dinner and then.
The rest of the night he's just straight in you know what we'd say is like a little Tuck Shop in in the kitchen. And it's hula hoops and he loves he loves a packet who knows who doesn't I mean. So yeah I mean they just you know um you know he eating I mean it's a summer summer of sugar. And it's quite funny when we always come back back to America and they go and see the doctor and just for a checkup and they jump on the scales and like you can see this like blip of the of the weight increase once once they've come back to the UK. So um see I go the other way so when I go to the US yeah I found this way too much Temptation out in the US I I find it. So yeah I'm exact opposite oh my goodness I find it impossible to eat well in America. But maybe because it's quite novel and you think well I've got to try uh Chick-fil-A I've got to go to you know Chick-fil-A is good um Cheesecake Factory oh no can't stand it this is two questions absolutely witness states in the warm. And that heat would you not be more motivated to get up to go for a run to train to eat a bit healthier if you live by the beach potentially you gotta get the Beachbody out every now and again potentially you know what I was going to come on to this later. But I think it's a nice point now you know what I really love seeing on social media with yourself. And certainly my I'm a family man guys recently had a little uh girl as well just over Christmas time how amazing you are with your family on social media like it's it's really nice to see it's certainly things that when we did watch Netflix documentary my wife watched it with you watched it with me sorry. And your episode she was like Blown Away how lovely of a family man you were. And it's so evident to see like Joshua's here Luke's here um obviously to some degree followers [Music] [Laughter] we'll be following your footsteps as well I mean Luke looks like an incredible golfer at the moment yeah you know I you know I've always wanted to be um in. And around my family at all times and you know being on the road for 28 to 30 weeks a year for the last 25 years um has not been easy and I think you know the the guilt that you have sometimes when you're on an airplane you haven't played very well um you're traveling you know hours. And hours and hours to get to get back home there's something about family which kind of brings it all back um that you know missing birthdays missing Nativity plays missing competitions missing kind of big milestones in there kind of upbringing which which you're never going to be able to to get those memories back um you know it means that I want to spend as much time with them as I possibly can. So I'm a bit close shop as a as a as a Housey guy who wants to be at home and be in and around them um as much as I possibly can because you know Amy's 21 um she's obviously at College looks at College at University of Florida albeit he's two hours away. And he pops back at weekends to get some of his laundry done something else [Music] um but you know before we know it those two are gonna be out the house they're going to be doing their own thing they're going to be working either Luke's going to be playing golf Amy's going to be on to a to a job somewhere. And she's going to have her own life. So you know I've kind of this game of golf has passed me by already so quickly in 25 years that I've kind of missed too much of their time so because I can't get any of that back I just want to keep as much time as I possibly can within reason with with them um. And that's that's why I I treat family time very very special time uh family holidays last like last week was was amazing. For me um just to you know to really enjoy them and seeing them have a good time and help them in their journey of whatever it is they're going to do do you feel the last two years since joining live has helped you free up weeks. And days to spend more time with family so I'm guessing that was part of a lot of players motives was to get more time back spend a bit more time with family have you found that over the last two years yeah we you know we're we're in a summer schedule right now which I don't believe I've had nine weeks in the UK. And only have a commitment to play two weeks so seven weeks off in the UK will be the longest time I've ever had in 25 years in the UK to enjoy family friends proper holiday time bit of downtime gym work practice like this you know this this opportunity with this summer summer schedule um has been refreshing to be honest um you know when I look back to you know on the board behind behind guy there in 1999. And with you know with with 2023 so all of a sudden you know that whole a look at that you know all of those events that I've played in in all of those years and there's not much Windows where we get an opportunity to have a bit of a refreshing break so you know that's the beauty I think. For us for live is having a 14-week schedule which we know exactly where we're going to play we know exactly what day we're traveling out we know exactly what day we're obviously coming home. And you can pre-plan pre-book yeah team travel um. And give us the opportunity to have these breaks and windows which are I think good mentally um you know to be able to have those those downtime Windows to really refresh recharge get some other family good quality family time in yeah to be able to come out you know fit strong ready to go that's interesting you say that though because like obviously when people look at yourself. And you know many many Elite tour professionals that live in our Dream because we all listen to this podcast and watched in this podcast play golf and want to would love to have a living playing golf at these amazing golf courses for amazing prize money but you've said there you've obviously had to sacrifice missing out a lot of things with your children. And they must feel like sometimes it is a price to pay. And then.
Having that more time now at home must feel kind of invaluable really yeah I mean look it's it's Priceless. And I'm I'm not going to sit here. And say you know we haven't done well for ourselves in in the way I've provided for the kids so look you know I've earned I've earned a lot of money in my career um it goes without saying and to be able to for me to provide for them in a way that you know 25 years ago thinking back that I I could be in this position um would would be a fairy tale so there are sacrifices that you have to make in doing that um to be able to spend that time away from home. So for the guilt that you have for being a way you're missing you know lots of Milestones obviously you want to be rewarded as much as you can. And and obviously you know go home and provide for your family the best way you possibly can. So you know I I I don't feel guilty about you know being able to go and compete for the large quantities of money because you know we've trained hard we've worked hard in you know in in 25 years of of training to go on to go and play to to provide for what really matters the most to me and that is that is family. So you know if I had to give it all up today.
To spend more time with the family that's that would be something that I could definitely consider doing because the family mean more to me than any job. Or any sport course or anything one quick question I had and I hope you don't mind me asking this then.
But you know look at that board your first win was 1999. And obviously today's 2023 still you know the top level of professional golf and I think your storage I'm sure will come on to I'm kind of jumping ahead a bit it's something a lot of people will know you turn pro off. For handicap you're like working at a golf club or something which by the way just done that what was you actually a four handicap. But were you what were you actually playing to a four handicap. Or were you not much better Wikipedia might tell a lie. But it says that you didn't play comps because the pro you're working for a major payer Green fee is that true. Or false well there's lots of kids watching so I can't say what he actually really was. But um um yeah my boss wasn't very nice at the time. So I I stopped playing golf competitively not that I really played any much competitive golf even before then.
But basically the age of 17. um and you know my my my boss made it difficult to have time off right to go and play in competitions I didn't play in in metal competitions basically because it was expensive I had to pay a green fee to go. And play and then.
To enter a medal so I didn't I stopped doing that so my handicap at the age of 17 was four Paul what do you reckon you what what do you think it was well I don't look I you must have been plus two plus three plus four years I got two was four however. I practice my backside off I was on the Range before work after work um during lunch times I'll have a quick sandwich go straight out. And hit a bucket of balls didn't charge you for balls no that was the one thing that was free. So that's what I hit a lot of balls um you're like I'll show him so I used to like you know for instance you know Mark litten who's a you know he's a European tour Chief referee today.
He was played on the European tour. For a couple of years I he was at my club. And I used to drive him to the airport to get him to go away and he give me a dozen golf balls right so that was a little bit of you know how I got my golf balls to play golf from the age of 17. um. But which he got for free by the way but um he'll hate me for saying that what balls yeah tourbill artists. So yeah I paid. For my fuel I drove him to the airport and he gave me a free dozen golf balls well just just on that though this misleads me perfectly actually into what I was going to ask you originally that you've got this kind of quiet a humble background. And hard work and dedication like you just said then.
Hitting ball off the ball after ball to get to where you've got to. And I think there's there's not many tour Pros can get at that level without great determination hard work your son Luke obviously said he's currently at University College um golfing. And then.
Obviously from what I've seen on social media is doing very well in Excel at that how have you balanced parental Den in a sense that you kind of don't say came from nothing. But work to where you get into an obviously the position you're in now you can provide. For your children which obviously most parents would love to do how has he got that work ethic as well. And has he really worked hard himself that come from you he taught him that because he could look at it and say I haven't done a plate for him but the way he's performing is golf he must be grinding he is grinding he works hard he. And and the nice thing for is not in the room I mean the nice thing. For me with Luke is that he wants to be himself. And look it's going to be difficult he's always kind of going to be Ian's son in a way which is which is difficult. So the advantages that that has is also disadvantages as well. And you know the disadvantage for him is the fact that he knows he's gonna have to work harder to be able to get out of that shadow situation to become his own individual. So I'm I'm proud the way his work ethic is I'm proud how he when he puts his mind to stuff he's capable of doing really good things um you know to get a position at University of Florida is not easy he got accepted in as someone that didn't play tons of you know tournaments leading in I mean today's kids just seem to play tournaments every single weekend of the entire year Luke didn't really do that. So the coach saw saw a level of talent that He had and wanted to bring him into the team he didn't play officially on the team last year as a very senior team and they won the NCAA championships which was which was pretty cool. But you know he he's going to be in a position coming up in in a few months time where he's going to be fighting to get himself in into that team um which is good because it's pushing him he knows he's been on the outside he's seen the success that the team have had this year. And it's you know it's really making him hungry so he's committed he works hard in the gym he's actually got six pack so I need to actually shed a bit more she had a little bit more now so I can actually uncover mine if there's actually one under there um. But he's self-driving me too so I think I've driven him well you said you said by example you lead by example like he's he'll be seeing the hours. And the hard work that you put in at the driving range in the gym on the short game area on the button green he knows what it'll take volunteer Luke as well though because I guess if you were if your dad was Ian Poulter you could almost go okay I don't really need to to work that hard I don't know I feel like he must see what you've instilled in him. And feel motivated and he has to because like I said although your your name his name helped something great that's something to get him on the team he has to be the golf he's got to be to get that shirt. And that team so fingers crossed this year he gets on that team and the team wants to win again it'd be awesome I mean I you know he he's in a he's in a wonderful College you know coach Deacon is an incredible coach. And obviously proven that this year with with the rest of the team um but yeah I mean it's it's it's that extra piece that he needs to find which is going to make the big difference I mean he went out. And shot 11 under on the Dukes the other day so and then.
He and then.
The simple fact of he goes out to qualify and he didn't qualify for the for the amateur so you know it's it's finding a way to pull it together so he's he's got the game he's got everything it takes to go and compete at a very high level I know because I've seen him hit it is he beating you yeah. And he's never officially but we don't actually play that much in terms of full rounds of golfers or four does he always want to play your stroke play as opposed to match play no no he's stroke play no no no no um. So you know I I give him these small Windows of opportunity when we do occasionally play to to take me on. And I mean he shot the same score as me three times. But he hasn't kind of got over the line so it's about it's about understanding how to to piece it together at the right time it's great gonna shoot yeah 11 on the casually um because not many people have ever probably been in that position. So I know how talented he is it's about him finding what makes him do that when he when he has to do it. And when he needs to do it yeah um it will be exciting to help him try. And find that from within because you know there are. So many great golfers in the world that have I've played with in 25 years and that are capable to go. And shoot 11 under par there are not many people that are capable of doing that under tournament conditions it's funny you say that because we've had a luxury. And obvious today's gonna be an amazing video where it takes you on around wellburn I will not be shooting another number I'm starting to turn on the past. But we filmed some amazing athletes and we've watched that Min Wooley up close Adam Scott have hit the ball so well Sam horsefield some horse who's obviously a majestic that's been on the channel yeah correct. But we've also filmed with some kind of much much lesser known tour Pros or guys who've actually had to leave the tour because they've not made it and we've watched them up close and honestly scratched our heads as to how on Earth are you not on the European toll winning week in week week out. But it's like you said it's one thing doing even on a video where a fairly easy course quite chilled the pressures of doing that. For your mortgage 72 holes week in week out it must be different that's what switches me on casual golf doesn't so I could go and shoot 80 today.
But you know casual goal for me is um it's it's a social piece. For me it's not actually any form of practice like I do all my practices of visualization on the driving range when I go. And play golf casually I don't generally play golf casually very rarely do I actually play around a golf. So in like a practice round how do you stay motivated [Music] yeah even if it was a side hustle with like Westwood. Or Stenson or we we have a bit of a game going at the minute. So it's the two oldies versus generally the two young ones um and Wesley and I have have fended them off every single time so far and that's a lot of matches but again that is a piece of you know that that's fun to me because it's that's that's almost like a semi-pride match yes right I mean it's 100 bucks. But um it's not the hundred bucks it's the winning it's it's the actual fact process it being you know so if you were here today.
And Sam horsefield turns up and he gets you and says Ian I'm gonna beat you today.
I'm gonna beat you I'm gonna destroy you is that what gets you going that right I'll share I mean that would be I mean you need to give me a bit more notice just to make sure I'm I'm ready. For it it for me for me Life's a what life's one massive game it's been a massive game from from my whole childhood sport has been everything about me in in the way I grew up so everything has to be a part of competition and I want to win every single competition I play so every during all of my days I want to do everything I possibly can to to win at everything that I try. And do. So we need to get you riled up then.
Because I feel like you're taking today's game quite relaxed I've just come off holiday and then.
Today.
You're taking on Rick Shields around the jute course am I right yep he starts heading apart you start level part. So far in this series you've played against Tommy Fleetwood and the result was well we don't have to go through everyone. So far I've played Tommy Adam Scott Lee Westwood um Ricky Fowler yes. And I've not won a single one so if Rick beats you today.
You'll be the first one is beaten. So you can you don't need something you don't need to stop the fire Rick will not beat me today.
So I want to hear the post bandsy oh God great guys did we say 10 I think I need 20 shots um you know what one of the things I did want to very quickly touch on where did you passion. For fashion come in that's something quite good question for fashion yeah where did where did that kicking one of if someone said describe being culture even now you get checkered pants crazy outfits that's an iconic into it where did that all come from was that is that from a young age I worked on a market stall as a kid from the age of 11.. So working within selling really dodgy bright colorful shell suits um you have to wear them selling uh no I didn't know because they were minging. But um selling three three t-shirts for a tenner um you know merchandising all the stock in order of sizes you know small to extra large and um loving house sevi presented himself on the golf course Payne Stewart Jasper panovic you can go through the players you know of of old that you're a kind of you know recognized um. Or followed as a kid um and say they all looked good on the golf course they were all their own individual personalities. And they all within their own right dressed dressed pretty cool so uh you know that I mean you know the first couple of years on tour I I probably wasn't I didn't feel comfortable enough really expressing myself in in the way I in the way I would love to a from a financial standpoint be from a standpoint of of being able to feel confident enough to well in a weird way do you put a Target on your back if you rocked up your first season rocking the checked pants rocking the outlandish outfits you'd kind of put a bit of a Target on your back there wouldn't you oh ah thousand percent I think that was a thing with our delivery. For you Ian oh chef Chef this is uh yes I feel like he wants you wanted to Ball's not shaking my undies [Music] great timing by the way I mean you only make 800 of these a week right about that maybe a thousands I didn't realize in the world yeah I didn't realize I were I'll be feed the chef I mean look these woven sausage rolls not only unbelievable you won an award last week wow I'll be putting it ready [Music] right. So we were listening at home there's 10 sausage rolls on the table a few weeks ago Ian's digging in no do it properly give us a bit of description I'll hold your mic. So um what can you tell me what you think about sausage roll. So far woven is pretty famous. For the sausage rolls Joshua absolutely devours them he has look he's actually dying over there come on get one Josh um they're famous they're famous for putting weight on like I proved last summer going home 206 pounds. But um there is a process to how they make these. And the caramelized onions that are kind of um left to simmer. For I think it's 24 hours is that kind of they're kind of um kind of they're just kind of paradise. And marinating right and um there's a whole process they lightly cooked them first and then.
They like they are absolutely amazing. So apparently you had one and you bagged it you I sure did because you know what troop is old I wanna I wanna cut back to the video yeah they did not look like that okay that's the worst sausage roll I've had that's the worst sausage roll I've had size color taste Heat is there is it gonna get finished no what Landing just walk off is that the end of that might be the end sausage roll reviews I don't even say let's go let's go. So halfway round we played on the Marquis course a few weeks ago went to the halfway house yeah listen Ian I was Bloody excited about this sausage roll yeah I've had Woburn sausage rolls in the past. And I've not been disappointed okay I'll turn up I order a sausage roll okay it comes it does not look like those sausage rolls it was pale in existence now that does look like a sausage roll that is a sausage right I think you need to retry one Rick okay describe it straight in got a little sound in there huh that's why he said it's. For me that one that was just going straight out the oven hot um give her the rating oh Ian can't play this afternoon he's got tongue burn I'll wait. For mine to cool down the outside yeah the pastry's crispy crunch on the outside the sausage is nice. And moist and hot and then.
Taste onions you get the little onions yeah I mean it's absolutely magnificent it's magnificent someone's driving the car right now who's listening to this podcast thinking they're going to hear Ian pulse talk about his PJ tour life winning on tour they're actually hearing him devour. And his uh his new future and live and and they would smashing the sausage roll um it does look a better color than when I last reviewed it very hot by myself um I like the I like the little kind of sesame seeds on top yeah um generally I like them bigger yeah [Music] [Laughter] if he does his job I would like it a little bit bigger yeah in general it doesn't look quite good smell it does smell good this isn't the same sausage roll I have this is much much better no careful it's hot some water if you need it [Music]. So this is quite Dead Space now if you're listening outrageously better oh hey what what's going on that isn't the same sausage rollout that is outrageously better I'm gonna give that a solid good night come on be generous it's an 8.8 8.8 8.8 um [Music] Chef will be absolutely delighted with that yeah that is a definite better I'm you know I'm really glad that might that my notes were taken on board yeah if if. And Paul's come back and smashed out the park in a minute mate and we'll get an award made up for him I'm sorry Paul [Music] we've been blown away we were here a couple of weeks ago we did some filming me. And Rick played a Texas scramble around the Marquess course uh we've been today.
To do a bit of Titleist testing on the Range what a facility that is by the way amazing range is really good um. And and the staff all here have been great with as well so it's a great place I can kind of see why you you call it home. But why is it that you do call this place home is it somewhere local to you. Or it's it's meant a lot to me through the years so I obviously worked Leighton buzzer Golf Club probably three miles down the road from here and um early 2000s uh when we was in a position to obviously play on tour come. And do some more practice the range obviously at Leighton Buzzard was too small um I've always kind of been up. And around Woburn we were in a position to to come. And become uh the touring professional back in the day and to have three courses out of all meant a lot from tournament golf because they've all obviously been been a part of Tour golf for quite a long period of time um you know each and every course in in their own right is different difficult treat lined Duchess being super tight uh of course that's a bit shorter than the rest uh we're gonna go. And play the Jukes in a minute which is probably um of all three the one that everyone remembers yeah it's really nice cars really great Golf Course watching I mean I've I've been up here watching sevi. And Monty and Faldo and Wuzzy and some great winners here amazing winners amazing um and obviously you've got the the modern of the three you know um on the Marcus course of course that Justin beat me on I finished running runner up to him in the um in the bridge Masters you know a long time ago um which is longer a little bit wider a little bit more friendly off the tee is that the one like in 2015 no it was back in about 2000. And four could you three hosted the new host one about 2015 yeah I did. And that was on that was on the um yeah that was on the Marcus course yeah there's a quick one one we didn't finish before sausage rolls came in was he fashion. So you're sorry you got on tour you weren't wearing too much flamboyant stuff understandably so you're the new guy on tour then.
How did it start to creep in uh I was I was in a position with my clothing where I could design my own kind of trousers. And start looking a little different I had a sponsorship deal at the time which um it was with Adidas. And I wasn't really a massive fan of their trousers to be honest so it kind of Started from the trousers and it kind of went a bit from there um we started making one-off trousers down in Savile Row London [Music] it was back in the day yeah yeah um. So he started to to make these trousers which I've still got most of them today.
In a in a box um which would make some nice curtains. For somebody I'm sure but um it kind of went from there so the whole Tartan theme went on there I wore the union Jack'd in the Open Championship which went berserk um we did Stars. And Stripes I mean I'd you know we we went across the board in terms of covering every form of possible color pattern fabric nothing top top In Pockets Side Pockets double. But I mean you know big flare bottoms slits in the side I mean we tried it all really plus fours at the open the Arsenal share the Arsenal show in 2006. I think that was all that like that burgundy I like that one nice with the gold O2 middle which apparently exactly which college you're allowed to wear it um well I wasn't allowed to wear it all right I got a slap on the wrist. For that oh but I mean look today.
I don't think I would have got a slap on the wrist no I think you'll be okay apart from that O2 logo was probably a bit too yeah a bit too big yeah today.
You can almost you can almost get away with anything right I mean tiger wore the mock Turtle color across time which changed. And you know Ricky saw it for Ricky Fowler to walk around with his shirt untucked and looked really cool but you can't wear a shirt with a collar I have you to blame though we into balance we do because about two thousand three four five out at the peak of my junior days. And I loved how you dressed but unfortunately I didn't have the ability to travel row and get trousers so I go to next.
And get pinstripe pants yes. And white belts yes I then.
Used to wear my her. And advisor like you did yeah spike it up. But then.
The problem was I got a little picture of this yes come into the clubhouse then..
And I would take my visor off because the rest it was gelled it looked horrendous the front bit was all flat yeah I was a skinny. For spotty 14 year old look yeah. And the ones actually went to the open in L5 with my friend Ben and um I wore my most elaborate loud stuff to try and because you were playing that one um to try. And get you to see me oh he didn't do yeah you have already done well with your hair considering you wear visors in like it always looks good more than I've got don't worry as in like when you take it off you always look it always looks good still yeah how'd you do um don't know if he does one of my my recede see I've receded quite a lot at an early age. So I think it's because my hairline goes back a bit. And the visor sits [Music] you don't quite mess it up or I want it messy enough yeah. But when I took it off it didn't make any difference anyway um I know one of I mean I would be interesting to know your take on this when you release your clothing line yep it was really successful it went everywhere I went in loads of different Pro Shops. But from my understanding that kind of clouded your judgment off the course and affected then.
Your playing ability on the course would that be right in saying that having any form of business is not easy I think where we were as a business in you know my my vision. For the business was um produce a clothing line. For everyone let's turn it into a really big business and let's have some fun with it um there was a number of things along the way that we did. And we learned very very valuable expensive lessons from um you know running before you walk in yeah is is one that I would say you know we we went straight in. And we ended up doing ladies too quickly we did Juniors too quickly uh the amount of skews that we did across the board in terms of how many different styles. And colors per um that was a challenge selling it into Pro Shops yeah is a challenge courses um it's often the way it's presented in stuff like no offense. Or some this shop here is a different level. But some of the pro shops around the country don't display product how you'd want it to be displayed oh um and also getting getting the pro to pay on time which from a cash flow perspective was difficult. So you know selling them three thousand pounds worth of of gear is one thing. But then.
Giving them 60 90 day credit and then.
Actually getting paid on on day 90 so you could again go and buy your Mo you know your next.
Range of clothes that that's coming out because the factories need to be paid and stuff needs to be designed manufactured put on a ship sent across you know across the world to get to you all of that process was an absolute absolute night of your time it I mean I wouldn't say it took up a lot of time it took up a lot of head space time more to the point we had enough staff to be able to cope with all of that. But just you know understanding that the boat that's going past um yeah Africa at the time to to come through to be able to be in a position to pay the you know million dollars of stock that's on that boat to realize that boat's actually on fire to realize that they wouldn't allow that boat to dock because it was on fire to then.
Realize it has to come into a dry dock in London. So therefore. by the time the the boat then.
I mean it's actually true yeah we hit we had a whole Year's collection of clothes where the boat was on fire. And it was coming into a dry dock. And it couldn't go into a normal dock because it was going to take up too much time to fix the boat. So it went into a dry dark and they took each container off kind of manually with not the right crane system so it took a month to get all of the containers off one by one instead of how they do them like really quite quickly today.
To then.
The stock was fine. But how many Pro Shops then.
When you've had a bad winter in their stocks two months late where give them an opportunity to cancel the orders no I mean listen it's it's um it's a hard business. And anyone that thinks that they can get into the clothing business that we thought we could get in. And be super successful um it was too much hard work. For the actual return that it was given compared to what you could earn on the golf course that's the thing if you can win a couple of events that's gonna take what the about making a year well I mean we're almost straight after kind of shutting the business down didn't you end up doing really well at the Players well we we decluttered a lot of things going in in. And around not just obviously the clothing line but um you know taking things back to however. were originally managed in day one um mistakes were being made um from from another agency that were helping out which uh caused a lot of stress Financial stress. And mistakes being made and just just you know too much was going on at the time. And too many things were going wrong. And you know building houses and houses that you had to move out of because um [Music] a few things had to change we changed them we simplified the whole process of of what it was we were doing. And and it it made a massive difference I want to get into golf now a bit more we've I feel like we've dived loads into he was you as an individual which people listening. And watching will be absolutely loving all this what's the best shot you've hit in your career what's the have you got a number one best shot you've hit um there will be a few that come to mind. But probably the most valuable shot I ever hit was um at Pals in Spain it was in in trying to get through to final stage of qualifying. And what year was this 1998 okay um 18th hole par five uh trees at about I don't know 370 yards off the tee in the middle of the fair where the overhang you drive off the tee I pushed it right in the trees I had to make par basically to I knew I had to make power to get through. And um hit it right in the trees I had to chip it back out in the Fairway because I mean around there it's you know it's the old kind of Spanish Tree Line courses it was like here really where you can't really Advance it too far. And I had about 230 yards to go but the trees were kind of you know they were in my way now. So I had to flight it perfectly high enough to get over these trees um and I remember hitting this two on absolute you know absolutely flush to about 25 feet but you know so many things could have gone wrong at that time and my career might have been in a very different place I had this too on I mean torskill is probably the most stressful stressful week of your life we covered it a number of years ago in Spain at Lumina I think it's changed name now. But um yeah there was a lot of stressful golfers there trying to qualify um how crazy is that though in all of that time frame one of your most memorable shots of the best shots was 25 years ago put it. But it that was what was the stepping stone to put me on my journey to to play golf I mean you know if if if I don't if that two iron Just Clips the tree if you know. So many gifts in that scenario which sets you back another year and then.
You know what other setbacks could have happened at the time and you know you you just never know so I think you know it's easy to turn around. And say oh hole in apart yeah here right which everyone remembers. But it it's sometimes the shot that no one ever saw that you hit that meant. So much in the bigger picture of what what it was that's it though because if you think about it. And that's all twofold not only as that shot literally got you into the next.
Age of final qualifying but you've now got that shot in your locker as such in them positive memory you knew when the profession was really on you've hit that golf shot. And you pulled it off and got through that moment if you like so you know moving forward in your career now when the pressure's on you could've done it before and you can do it. And that must be super important as well and help you I cool I almost called it like an archive so with how you've described it is exactly how I would would memorize every shot I've ever hit now obviously I can't remember every single shot I've ever hit. But you either do remember the really good shots. Or you do unfortunately remember the really bad shots all of which I would turn around. And put them in a filing cabinet yeah. And if you ever have to pull on them it's good to go into the top drawer rather than the bottom drawer and say right well I'm I know I've hit I know I've hit this one before because I've hit it a number of times but these are the great. So like you feel yourself full of positive energy and positive thoughts going into playing a really stressful shot. Or a really hard shot because you've got 1.4 1.5 seconds really to be able to to do what you need to do to produce that shot. So you better have the pre-thought mentality that you're capable of pulling that shot off um and hopefully you pull the one out the top drawer and and not the bottom drawer I suppose yeah I mean it makes. So much sense do you. And again great for our listeners and viewers do you do anything post-round do you have like a little book do you write good shots down do you verbalize it is there anything that you do that helps file those good shots James Matt agent team principal friend confident everything who's sitting in the room would would have an archive because he writes everything down um. And notarizes everything but you know I I don't generally write stuff down I perhaps should have wrote a lot of things down but that's where I pull it from memory yeah in terms of um what it is I do in terms of what I do pull from from archiving stuff. And is video content. So video ins you know quite important for me to video my swing every single week that I play so if ever there's a week or a tournament that I'm going to. And there's a certain feeling or there's a shot shape that I'm hitting currently now but I want to kind of blend back to how I was playing on a certain given week like the PLAYERS Championship when I uh when I finish runner-up you know that shot from the trees was absolutely ridiculous 116 yards it's absolutely ridiculous it was um yes it was it was it was a little silly very silly um the shot that got me in there was a bottom drawer oh yeah that was a that was then.
You followed it up with that I mean that was ridiculous. So you nearly hold it oh it didn't go in there was a little there was a little V window split in the tree. So um you know all bit I was covered in beer because I was I was um I was. So far right and so far near the hospitality area that everyone was drinking lots. And I remember walking up to the shop and this woman turned around and backed into me and no poofed a load of beer on me. And then.
She's like yeah yeah I hate him. So that gave me the confidence you needed someone was like maybe maybe you got a bit of that beer in in you maybe I'll just give it a little bit of confidence I think it was more to the point of right I'm gonna you [Music] Shanks are part. And parcel of my career I can name them fourth hole at the the Masters when Fanny was carrying. For me when my caddy at the time was having a baby. And I had two on that day I had it on the on the fourth hole straight right lost ball just re-t had it on the 15th that week um and ended up missing the Fairway left on 17 from the middle of the Fairway on 15. he did compensate that time it was it was a proper shank oh sorry you hit one that went over to the right sorry. For the trees [Music] um and I nearly hold out from from there I've had one on seven I've had one on 10 of um so to go back to your point you're almost drawing down on that confidence that after you hit shank the chances are you're probably gonna hit a pretty special one that's my philosophy on a shank people are bothered with what everyone else is thinking because you've had a shank I couldn't give a rats [Music] about what anyone else thinks everyone else is out of shank everyone in the world is out of shape I don't care about having a shank it doesn't matter just let's get on with the game of golf like let's let me recover from wherever this balls ended up it's a good mindset. And crack on it like look it's you're swinging a golf club at 100 mile an hour and you've got a three or four inch face to hit it on right I mean I hit him at the toe I hit him a bit low on the face hitting a bit high. And occasionally we hit one out the hill it you know hopefully you don't have two million a year and hopefully you don't have that many in a really important moment is the bit where you get difficult yeah let the players one of the questions I had. For you then.
Ian is that obviously um you're a live player. And last year I went to live London for the first event see what it was like. And I came back and said those are the parts of it I kind of really enjoyed we said on the podcast number of weeks ago that Rick was going to come to London. For his first live event and he's still Keen Rick yeah I am we've got tickets through today.
I want you to explain to Rick what you think he will feel on site. And how it's different maybe a normal kind of DP World Tour event sure I I first and foremost I can't wait for you to come hopefully you can have your Majestics hat on. And not a full races hat or Fireballs huh um as you like free gear no you can give it away if you like. But I mean it'd be nice to see you wear a nice Majestics hat just because I'm on the contract unfortunately I will I will happily give this away [Music] we are currently not in a position of saying we have an arch enemy team because in the table of let's call it the premiership right we're kind we're kind of low down. And we obviously want to move up so I wouldn't really say we've got an arch enemy we we would like to be in the top spot yeah there is enormous value in me in the top three. And that is what we set out to achieve at the start of the Year we're not doing what we think we are capable of doing. So we need to move up so going back to guys point there I'm I'm live in London this year from what I've seen on YouTube. And and Etc it's it appears like a very different type of crowd they're going to live is that would that be fair to say I would say your demographic is a little younger which is good uh you'll hear music on the golf course which I think all of us play golf generally casually with some form of music playing a lot of people travel with a little speaker in the bag. So we got music in in a golf cart slightly popular in America into it very popular um that you'll see on the golf course that I think is a really cool relaxed vibe um you have the ability to watch I think because there's only 48 players instead of you know two waves of say 78 players playing you can reverse walk around the golf course. And see every single player in the entire field in a short space of time that you don't have the beauty in any normal regular tournament because they're kind of spaced out either morning or afternoon draw and that kind of takes up the entire day great Hospitality in various areas around the golf course again good food you can have a drink um it's a bit more you know like a family orientated type venue situation again because 48 players in. And around the driving range everyone's on the Range exactly the same time yeah because it's a shotgun start. So there's so many cool things that make it and distinguish it as being different um two tournaments in one tournament yeah the fact of the leaderboard being able to to not only show you you know an individual an individual leaderboard. But you've obviously got the team aspect if you're a you know a team follower yeah where you want to see you know your team move up during the week. So there are. So many cool things I think within you know live golf's concept that that works. So well not just for us as players but obviously for the fan following as well well that was one thing we have a little brief chat before the podcast started it's been no secret that we've had very mixed opinions on live with likes on things we've not like some things. And then.
That's something we kind of Stand By but when I came back from the live London event and I think this is on the podcast many times there was lots I was impressed. But I first see the kind of tented Village area the food was great it was a good atmosphere it was a different demographic like you said it was kind of golfy. But not too golfy if that makes sense and one thing that stood out to me massively whether it be the same this year or not I don't know but how actually close you get to the players you were there Phil Mickelson was the DJ these huge huge names. And it did feel quite kind of personal. So if you are a fan of golf. And you want to see these guys up close and personal there's not many better places that would say than the Live Events to be fair yep I agree look it's it's it's a it's a great view in event to be able to go to concerts after the round of golf as well yeah. So you know you don't you don't have to be a mega golfy fan fan fan fan to realize that there's a great name playing in the concert so as soon as the round of goal finishes you can walk straight to the stage area. And obviously you know hang out have a beer and you know enjoy a great concert which we've done at various times as well in in Adelaide Fisher was playing them. And um I think you do a Shoei did you do a showy yeah uh which was disgusting I've never quite understood that concept I have a really big problem with feet. And especially someone else's smelly feet so you must have had a few already before you did that I had a couple I had a couple. So it probably made it a bit easier to do yeah what have you what have you as a player enjoyed most about joining live [Music] in in how I've you live as to what it's given me the opportunity to do it's given me a lot more family time um a lot of people are going to take this back. And you know are you you're just making lots more money that is one aspect of obviously the the original attraction is we're playing. For a lot of money per week so let's let's get that one and let's let's cover that one straight away yes we're paid even if you don't play very well. And you finish last you're still gonna I think people respect you saying that though do you feel like a few too many players maybe didn't weren't as open about that when when it when they first signed if that's the case look. For sure it was it was a big piece of it right people only turn around. And said it was money money money situation look that is one part of the situation. But but but After experiencing live for 18 months in this position that we're in and we understood the business model as it was coming in to live that to own a piece of a franchise excites me as a business owner anyway. And someone that's had a real interest you know not just within golf but outside in other aspects of business to be able to try and grow a franchise business to be able to be part of a team to be able to travel with a team to be to be able to spend time not just with teammates but the people in and around the team that run the team um to work with some of the best trainers physios to help you get prepared in a way where you haven't done it as good as you possibly could have done to tee off at the same time knowing your tea time before you start the week means you can plan your whole week to bring on a new kind of a different audience of sponsors. And a different group of sponsors and corporate people that you can finally entertain them in a way where you've never been able to entertain them ever before a PGA Tour event. Or European Tour event or any Tour event normally you don't ever really get any sponsorship time where we can control our sponsors. And we can control their guests in a way where we can give them the most incredible golf experience that they're probably ever going to have at any golf event because that's part of team majestic's ability to to to give that level of experience. And that's what people want nowadays so um you know booking your travel month to month to month in advance knowing when you can book a return flight because you know your tee off time on a Sunday it's little things like that which sound kind of silly in a way when you say it. But you know after spending 25 years not doing that well you don't know when your tea time is you don't know what flight you can catch you don't know you know in. And around where you're going to be able to book a dinner table you don't know what time you. So this I mean there's you know there are. So many little pieces of the puzzle of what goes into a normal week um How You Gonna you know how you're properly gonna prepare because of that obviously we don't have that early tee time anymore yeah on a Thursday Friday which is which is a huge deal in terms of rest. And recovery and you feel like therefore. when players are out on the golf course all at the same time there's no huge Advantage like it's in what I mean you know you don't get an early tee off until the wind was quieter. Or whatever it wouldn't be fair if I didn't ask what are you missing. And what do you not enjoy as much what am I missing um friends obviously friends that you've spent 20 years some of its 25 years of your life with week in week out um you know that would be a part of of of live which only having 48 players you can't have 150 players. So therefore. you're going to miss some people. But I don't miss 155 but you get you got to miss a few um so to be able to have that you know and and continue those relationships away from the golf course sometimes it's always been difficult anyway because they have a life I have a life um and you don't really see them week in week out so um I missed that that aspect it's it's probably to be honest it's probably just that you know the staff some of the staff referees people that you've had relationships with for a very long time um that you know you just miss saying hello to and I sound like leaving a job in a way like leaving for one business or to another business it might be more money it might be better flexibility might be more working from home or whatever it might be if you see that's a matter of opportunity for you it is. But equally you might then.
Miss someone that you should go and see every day that you'd walk in who's a receptionist or whatever like that but but you know the the bigger picture of this was always going to be you know we we knew we were playing. For 14 weeks a year because that's what we sign up to play for um but the European tour allowed a minimum of you have to play a minimum of four events so there was always there was always the ability to play European tour events as well as plain live events that was obviously going to be difficult to do that on the PGA tour because the minimum is 15. he wasn't going to then.
Go. And play 29 events plus the majors could could be 33. that's too many so um you know we didn't know at the time that by plane live it was going to be you know heavily heavily frowned upon in a way where therefore. you know you were going to get penalized. And punished and suspended and and all of that stuff um but you know that that was the unknown we'd asked questions. And you know what if we take the opportunity to play you know that the answer was never given what was gonna what what was gonna happen. So um The Hope was Liv was going to be accepted into the into the the picture of golf um that they're would be an agreement in place which obviously is going to be is going to be talked about over the coming months to see how exactly that's going to work out now. So um very thankful in a way that it's come to that position where the guys have you know clearly the smart business people have got together and kind of seen that you know live should stay live can stay. And there is a coming together under an umbrella agreement which is going to be worked out it's going to say how do you feel like the future of that is that the future of golf in general. And professional golf is going to look over the next.
Few years we don't know I mean obviously that's that's all to be discussed I think in the coming months. So um being part of live and being part of you know a golf fan as such it's exciting I think from from my perspective that there is an acceptance out there there is an acceptance that you know live is a good product that we can give something out to the gold fan which is which is good it's going to be accepted. And how does that look in 12 months I don't know like I'm excited to see you know potentially that that where where they get to with the agreement. And how they're going to place the tournaments in the places where they should be. And you know we can we can hopefully get you know get more. And more fans involved in the game of golf to give over several different forms of product with DP world and PGA Tour and and live golf so it's um it's kind of uh let's let's see how the next.
Three months pans out it does certainly seem like there's a there's a huge turning of the tides just the last few weeks it feels like conversations are starting to take place obviously the US Open last week. And the way that players are even being with each other it feels like the friction is being softened that's what it feels like from the outside I'm not sure if you can talk about that from the inside whether you've experienced any of that. But also I wonder what that's going to look like let's say over the next.
Few years like how I'm just. So intrigued to know and I'm sure as a fan but as a player as players you're all a bit like God how does this all pan out. For me what's my future gonna look like for example like is there going to be a future where Live players can now start to be accepted back into Ryder Cup from a European side of things you know hopefully. So I'm guessing that must be a huge life goal for yourself to be Ian Poulter Ryder Cup captain absolutely um you know I you know you can't play eight Ryder cups and not want to be part of a Ryder Cup so you know by the way not only play eight Rider corpse to be a freaking Legend on the European team like the most decorated uh the most decorated individual points well Sergio's won the most points but is it not individual matches aren't you the number one well I've never lost a singles match I don't think I don't think Monty's lost one either I mean that's pretty ridiculous I mean I want to dive into this a little bit more. But like your Ryder Cup history he's incredible and I think that would also be what's transcended you into a household name like I think a lot of non-golfers clearly know who Ian Poulter is. And I think that comes from 100 Ryder Cup Legacy yeah it it it's been a big part of my 25 years on tour I think when I you know when I look back at my first one 2004 um. And all of the all of the ones that I've subsequently played and you know Madonna being notable for Madonna was ridiculous you know noticeable. For you know this there's the Saturday afternoon come back and Sunday um you know even you know being picked and being under the scrutiny because Faldo picked me and you know winning four and a half points in in that Ryder Cup and um Paris beating Dustin Johnson world number one in singles who just wouldn't he just wouldn't roll over kept holding 50 foot around 70 foot or on 40 footer and um yeah I mean Ryder Cup has been a huge part of my my you know my tour career I think today.
I think um people still want to talk about that today.
I did I did a I did um a luncheon yesterday afternoon. And Ryder Cup was a big topic uh which come up. And Medina come up again so I mean you know that was 11 years that was 11 years ago. And and it's still it's still a huge topic so look I think I think. For me we can talk about Ryder Cup. For hours right I can bore all all of the list listeners um on Ryder Cup. But you know the Hope in all of this I think uh the coming together the the merge of of how that agreement's gonna play out is exciting from a Ryder Cup standpoint yes hopefully um it makes sense. And again I don't know the details of how exactly this is going to pan out. And of course you know but that that's a dream of yours for that to happen if I ever get in a position and and things smooth themselves out in in enough to be able to help out in a Ryder Cup let's say from a from an experience standpoint from a standpoint of being able to be in that position for the fans as well for for what you've been able to help out um would be an absolute dream of mine I think three weeks ago I would have said that was never a possibility I think since the conversation of merger it was it was almost the first thing that came to my mind does this mean hopefully touchwood you know water can go on the bridge. And then.
There might be a possibility of having the importance of the Ryder Cup captain Lee West was a radical Captain Sergio Garcia is a radical Captain Henry Stenson again radical captain that has to happen great McDowell radical Captain Martin like the list of captains. And vice captains Etc of all the experience of everything that all of you have done for the Ryder co-op in excelling it to the level it's at now there has to be a future please I know it's not on you I know it's not on you and I'm not saying on you but if you can do a bit heartbelt. But like and I know that I'm sure yeah. But the guys knew that when they were gonna. But also you might not you might notice we didn't know because we asked the question numerous times um you know we don't have to go into the detail of that but we you know we asked if if we were gonna you know look at plan 14 Live Events a year what would that mean. And that they were there you know there was no there was no answer. So there was no this is this is how things are going to lay themselves out. So it was it's very hard it's very difficult to to make a decision make decisions without knowing all of the detail at play. So you know you can only deal with the detail in front of you. And that's obviously what we did. And you know the Hope moving forward is that the powers that be in the game of golf. And the smart business people that that help and advise with inside this great game of golf uh are now sitting around the same table which is good it's kind of a shame it's taken as long as it took to get to this position um. But I think as as a as a as a player as a golf fan I think it's exciting that you know they are sitting around the table they can have a uh sensible level level heady conversation today.
And hopefully set aside obviously the emotions at Play and do the right thing. For the business side of the game of golf for the fans of mind last thing I've got to blame you for something yeah Madonna I got kicked out of a sports bar because of you yeah good on you saw stop yeah watch him a diner did you ever did you have a rare up with a with an American fan no it's worse than that um I got kicked out of this golf simulator bar sports bar watching the Ryder Cup because when whether it was when you held the port. Or I think it was when you held a put. Or someone held a put against you I think it was who's you playing singles at Banana again uh Webb Simpson he hold the port against on the bat nine. And I I picked up a scotch egg that was on the table in Madonna no I was in this golf simulator bar in Manchester this Scotch egg. And I threw it at the screen at Webb Simpson but it was in. So much anger I got kicked out I think I missed you I got kicked out of the sports bar. And the very next.
Day because it was a friend of mine I had to go around. And there's an apology I took a little box of Scotch eggs around and apologized as the apology I just thought it'd be quite ironic okay anyway uh well that's a great note to end on thank you Ian we're gonna get out. And play some golf um really enjoyed that anything anything else you want to cover anything else you want to get off your chest [Music] [Music] Ian thanks for your time thanks to Woburn thanks to Paul the chef for this 8.8 sausage I apologize now and say they really like them I'll apologize to the chef who cooked the original one can you say now I'm gonna apologize to Paul Rick's here because he wasn't sure I'll just have a little sound hi I'm Rick Shields. And I recommend Woburn sausage rolls right guys thanks for watching listening make sure you follow Ian on all the socials I'm sure 6.1 million views you want on this match and uh we'll see you soon peace.
