Um so we've had some questions on the facebook group as well i've got four good ones um so this is from matthew he said why do you think that wilson is not the whole household name in golf that it used to be is it because they cater. For the high handicappers um or they just won't shell out money for bigger names now obviously you've done that video you did the thing with wilson number years ago which was well you worked. For the golf channel on a wilson kind of show but just before actually we get on to that obviously i've been playing golf kind of the same time as used about 96 97 i started in a number of brands like wilson who were absolute the market leaders correct tonight i'm gonna reel some off now you might have some that i've not mentioned. But i'm gonna reel some off links yep wilson max fly yeah hippo dunlop now maybe the hippopotamus weren't as big decent brands yeah strata. For the golf balls mcgregor yeah slazinger now they were they're a sports direct brand now. But slavinger with a real deal back in the day maybe more yeah housing yeah houston tommy armour yeah. And spalding yeah adams adams yeah it was a big one mizuno drivers yeah. So it's weird how the will button people are going to watch this. Or listening whatever comment below if you've got any more brands that were kind of really big 10 well 20 years ago maybe even more it'd be interesting if you properly looked at if there's any patterns that emerged with all of those yeah things have done kind of wrong yeah. Or they've changed well they're quite different some of them but let's take for example wilson obviously the question i think back in the day if i'm not mistaken i'd still believe wilson have the most major wins using their irons i feel like they do because it was a lot of the opens yeah in in the whatever years uh even like padre carrington yeah only in the last kind of few decades as one opens with him. And then.
Gary woodland a couple of years ago wouldn't a major with using the wilson irons as well um for me i think that if you looked at it from a business standpoint i think he's probably nailed on edge with two things i think back in the day they've made phenomenal irons really really good brilliant blades they were killing it i think with a lot of these brands now as calloway. And taylormade have started to do they try. And make everything don't they yeah. And probably you've got each brand really has um its own exact um specialty yeah does that make sense i would say taylormade is more of a ward company i would say that. For example um titleist is more of a ball company i would say that ping is more of an iron company a potter company sorry ping yeah it's original originally. And then.
I think wilson what they started to do is try. And make too many different products drivers wedges golf ball pushers etc etc which you're still trying to do right now. And i also think they also tried to captivate the the package set market yes they did i think when they were really popular they also tried to go well we're killing it up here yeah the best players in the world good players how do we kill it down here as a mass product well our wilson deep red now is kind of that package set branches decent gear it was at the time wilson deep red was their premium lives. And then.
They kind of brought it down yeah yeah exactly. So i think then.
The guys who are up here who regard wilson as being the best of the best start to look at these package sets. And go ah i'm now being associated with this brand bill now what phd have done recently yeah i think we've seen this exact same trend. But with psg they came out with these ridiculously expensive clubs really aspirational everybody wanted to try them i was getting tested about testing pxg they've gone off the planet now they're making package sets i never thought i'd see that strange isn't it if i if they were gonna make a package set i wanted to see. And make a 12 grand package set yeah not a thousand pounds package set which i think what they've brought out now sort of ram as well by the way ram was a good one. So i think over time what these brands sometimes do is maybe get a little bit greedy. And try and captivate every single market i would say the only real brand that has done that in the last decade or so and i'm not talking golf is probably apple i probably would say apple the only brand that have actually managed to captivate the laptop market yeah the phone market the music market the speaker market you know what they do very differently though although they do you completely right they take the time don't they. So they i don't know what year apple's formed but the first iphone i think oh seven. So it took a long time and then.
Like the wireless headphones were such a long time they didn't come out with the phone did they no exactly with the actual max yeah no exactly. So it makes you think that like does some of the guard fans rush into it again we've used this example a lot of times. But mizuno just it baffles me how again there's nothing there's no equipment it's fantastic if i was playing if i did play with a guy. Or whatever when i went to go and play at stockpot let's say he was off a five-handed cap. And had will snyder sorry mizuno ions i think nothing of it if they say. Or what boy you're playing over mizuno one you're almost thinking why you shouldn't do no ball it just seems like it's hard. For one brand i think titus is probably the only one. And taylormade really who do everything. But i think tightly as well callaway in the fact that they um head hunted experts in each field the titleists were making golf ball. And they went right let's make some wedges we'll lose the best person in wedges bob vokey okay you're going to come with us who's the best person making putters right now scott cameron okay you're going to come with us i think as well another thing that comes down to it that often we don't kind of even consider is the actual forgetting about just golf. For a moment it's the actual brand themself and what is the kind of focus. So wilson sporting goods um are owned by aim of sports which is a massive sporting company. But obviously wilson are very big in tennis. And run the racket sport so i don't know i mean i'm sure we could find this out with a bit of research maybe she's done some before. But i don't know in terms of what golf actually makes up the market of their business well i i went to in chicago and i went to wells wilson hq yeah i went in with this mindset it's a golf company it golf was a tiny little space yeah in this gigantic office in chicago. So it's how much they want to put into it it was tennis i'm sure there was a massive crazy stat like they make more tennis balls than do golf balls oh yeah i'm surprised like they sell. So many more rackets you.
